Revolutions controller afsløret

Ronaldo>
Nåårhhh... du har prøvet det på mobilen? Ja, men det siger så det hele.

Zzap!>
men uanset hvad så kan du da svinge armen så tosset du vil, for bevægelsen glider jo bare ind over skærmen når din bevægelse når dertil.

Derudover så er der jo også gyroskopet det kan måle hastigheden af dit sving selv når IR dioderne er uden for synsfeltet.

jaes>Jeg har svært ved at se mig selv sidde og lave vilde sving med armene, hvis det ikke er nødvendigt for gameplayet. Godt nok er jeg et legebarn, men alligevel... :)

Dark-Light>
Fra pussenusse lego til mørk realisme?
Hvis Mario nogensinde bevægede sig i den retning, ville jeg begynde med Nintendo ;)

What are you on about? How long has it been since you last played through a Mario game? No sharp corners? Primary colours, yeah sometimes and what’s wrong with that? Fluff? what Fluff? I'm sure you can do better than that.

See, this is the trouble with exporting a cultural product from east to the west (or any other cultural region for that matter), being it a comic, film, music, game etc.
Parts of it may go straight through because they are universally human, but other aspects of the work may get perceived in a different way, and get twisted to mean something other, because of cultural precognitions and prejudices.

Japanese "cute" is on a whole other level than “modern” western cute. Japanese kawaii has a much crisper snappier feel to it, although they may seem indistinguishable to the untrained eye (there are exceptions to this in western popular culture though, like the Moomintrolls). They both mostly stem from Disney of the 1930s and 40s but are mixed with entirely different cultural background and have evolved (and devolved) almost independently for many years. Japanese stylised pop art especially leaning heavily towards traditional concepts like Wabi-sabi (especially the sabi part).

It is not nearly as embarrassing or socially unacceptable for a male to like cute or kawaii things in Japan as in EU or US. It is not uncommon to see kawaii-style public signposts in Japan. It is simply an accepted means of communication and style.

I question which is more unhealthy or abnormal; the Japanese acceptance of softness and emphatic stylisation in everyday life, or our obsession with macho ideals.


What style do you propose Nintendo should use for Mario in the future? Should he become twisted, gritty and so called realistic? Just look at the 1993 movie for an example of how bad that can go.

It is not a good idea to try and fully separate style and content I think, but you should really try and look at the actual gameplay going on, and then maybe you will realise that a stylised so called “simple style” does not equate simple or childish content. Then maybe in time, you will learn to love the style, because it really integrates with the gameplay making a coherent whole.

Tell you what I think went "musty and cloy long ago"; the current style of empty coolness that is so dominant in the games, movie and music industry at the moment. It just can’t get dark and gritty enough, and for no apparent reason too.


The style in the Mario games is humorous, abstracted and stylised, but never unsophisticated, condescending (well almost not) or awkward.
Mario has become iconographic in a way (and was probably originally conceived to be). Mario is the hero, Peach is *the* princes, Bowser is *the* antagonist, Luigi *the* sidekick and the whole universe they inhabit *the* place at the other end of the rainbow.

With regards to your comment about the new Zelda game, notice that the style is still far from realistic (more like dreamy and mysterious like Majoras Mask) and that Zelda as a game series always have lent itself better to a variety of styles, from the styles in aLttP and WW to OoT and TP.

We can agree that Mario needs to move, but there are other dimensions to move in than from “mature” to “kiddie” or back.
I don't see any indication that the series will not move - apart from Mario Sunshine and Super Mario Bros. 2 which wasn't real Mario games anyway (and felt completely wrong to me) - the series has taken gaming a giant leap forward with each new instalment.

Of course I fully realise that I'm not going to make anyone admit that they are wrong, or that they really secretly admire the Mario games, by posting this. But maybe I'm making you reconsider your stand or at least nudging you a little in the right direction, cos if you don't change that attitude soon, you are going to be the first against the wall when the Revolution comes.

Dark-Light>
Men ser billedet mere realistisk end spillene? Det synes jeg da kun man kan svare ja til. Samtidig er den selvsagt mørkere end spillene.

Jeg kan ikke se det er så farligt at jeg ikke nødvendigvis er enig med dig?

EDIT: Jeg tror heller ikke det er en retning Nintendo tager. Og fred være med det. Spillene appellerer bare ikke til mig. Og det kan end ikke en større engelsk stil få mig overbevidst om.

Hello.

I work for a UK based developer. I have some news for you guys, probably very good news. According to my sources, an agreement was made between IBM and Nintendo. IBM wants to join the console business, formerly they wanted to do that with Apple, but Apple agreed with Intel, so they have chosen Nintendo instead. They have all the money they need (the funny thing is, they have a shitload of money because MS have ordered lots of very expensive PPC processors from IBM to be used in XBOX360), and the state-of-the-art technology (which is Cell, of course).

The previous rumors on this board about Nintendo inventing something, a way to developed amazing visuals with much lower specs and costs compared to the PS3 is somewhat true. In fact they did not "invent" anything, they will use ray-tracing for graphics, that's it. The hardware of Revo (the name of the console is in fact 'Nintendo Blue') will be far superior to that of the PS3. The PS3 and XBOX360 are more than obsolete compared to the new Nintendo.

Zzap!>
Ikusagami til PS2 ligger efter min mening ret tæt på Kameo i både kompleksitet og IQ.

jaes>
Kameo ligner IMO det, det er; et førstegenerationsspil til de kommende konsoller :)

jaes>
Det eneste problem jeg har med Kameo er sådan set farvepaletten, der er lige skrap nok til mine øjne. Lidt for meget Sudeki.

Zzap!>
Ikusagami til PS2 ligger efter min mening ret tæt på Kameo i både kompleksitet og IQ.

Bede-x>Men selvfølgelig, hvis billederne er små nok, så ser man ikke de slørede PS2 textures, det flimrende skærmbillede og man behøver ikke tage stilling til ting som framerate og opløsning på et udvikler billede.

Vil du seriøst opretholde, at du tror Ikusagami bliver ca lige så flot som Kameo, altså rent teknisk?

jaes>
Det er jeg ikke helt enig i. Jeg synes, at Nintendo, og mange andre japanske udviklere, normalt er bedre til at kontrollere farvenuancerne.

Zzap!>
Hvis der er nogen det er kendt for at sende "screenshots" igennem den helt store skønhedskur, så er det da microsoft!?

Det jeg mener er at forskellen ikke er nær så stor som man kunne ønske.

RJK>
Var det ikke et krav fra Microsoft, som annonceret tidligt omkring Xbox 360, at alle spil skulle have FSAA (og HDTV mm.).